PQ Show 16 – Cage Match – MPLS is Dead. Or Not.

In the Red Corner is Greg Ferro fighting for the death of MPLS. In the Blue Corner, it’s Derick Winkworth – MPLS Lover and bragger.

In this impromptu and live recording, after having twitpiss about it, Greg & Derick go head to head on the topic whether MPLS is dead in an SDN world. Lets have the debate in full and proper order, and see who can convince the listeners.

Thanks to the fifty odd people who tuned to the GotoMeeting and asked questions.

Let use know in the forum if you enjoyed the event and we will see if we can organise more of these.


Greg Ferro
Greg Ferro is a Network Engineer/Architect, mostly focussed on Data Centre, Security Infrastructure, and recently Virtualization. He has over 20 years in IT, in wide range of employers working as a freelance consultant including Finance, Service Providers and Online Companies. He is CCIE#6920 and has a few ideas about the world, but not enough to really count. He is a host on the Packet Pushers Podcast, blogger at EtherealMind.com and on Twitter @etherealmind and Google Plus.
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  • Cayle Spandon

    I am a *huge* fan of packet pushers. I listen to every single show. I immensely enjoy the discussions which are full of interesting insight and presented with fun and pizzazz. I have learned a tremendous amount by listening to your podcasts.

    That said… I thought this episode was a low point in packet pusher history. Greg’s attacks on MPLS were vitriolic. I was litterally gasping at some of the outragious claims, many of them blatently technical incorrect. I’m sorry, but this made Greg sound like the Rush Limbaugh of networking…

  • Autonomous :-)

    I agree with Cayley. It was much like a radio version of Jerry Springer. Unimpressed.

  • toddh

    Disagree completely with the previous two comments. I found it an energetic and informative discussion. If someone doesn’t speak out then nothing changes.

  • Allen Baylis

    @ Cayle, like anything in life Greg makes the show interesting. Ok grant it, MPLS isn’t exactly dead but its following the same EOL cycle just like any other legacy protocol …ie FR => ATM=>MPLS=>OpenFlow. Don’t expect forklift upgrades but transitional phases …hybrid. It will take many years to roll out and optimize ..

  • Andrew Hrycaj

    This had to be one of my favorite packet pushers podcasts to date. Really good discussions and felt it hit home on MPLS and flaws in large scale network management and monitoring. I think its good to have forward thinking and challenge how we develop networks for the future. Some of Greg’s complaints may make some network engineers gasp in horror, but I feel these are questions we have to ask ourselves. We can’t architect networks or work with protocols just because “that’s how it’s always been done” or “it’s the only way I feel comfortable”. If we had that mindset all the time, NOTHING would ever change in not only the networking world, but in IT overall.