Show 110 – Live From the CLUS 2012 Social Media Lounge

At Cisco Live 2012 in San Diego, we tweeted that anyone interested could gather at the Social Media Lounge to record a podcast with the Packet Pushers and No Strings Attached shows. Perhaps 20 people showed up at the beginning, but by the end I think double that number had wandered up and joined the crowd. The show was recorded by Blake Krone and me. We each had hand-held microphones and walked over to folks as they were speaking. There was a lot of good conversation and opinion, along with some laughs.

What We Discussed

  • Is Cisco trying to redefine the SDN market with their “network programmability” approach?
  • A Cisco app store & community to encourage onePK adoption seems necessary. Or should we (the networking community) build our own code exchange?
  • Are you a programmer? What languages are your familiar with?
  • Why is an API is better than SNMP?
  • There are security concerns around community-based code sharing. What do we do about that?
  • C & Java are the first languages to support onePK. What languages are next, and when?
  • The Cisco Cloud Services Router: opinions & use-cases.
  • Is there a license-limited version of CSR or some other IOS flavor coming so that engineers can build labs in a Cisco-sanctioned way?
  • Will onePK introduce a whole new class of bugs? What about bugs introduced by users writing their own apps?
  • BreakingPoint – cool product seen on the CLUS “World of Solutions” show floor.
  • CCDE & CCAr: why is a CCIE not a prerequisite?
  • CiscoLive365.com – the place to get video and slide presentations from Cisco Live.

Quotable Quotes

  • “Simple is stable.” – Marko Milivojevic
  • “You should not care where your workload sits.” – Omar Sultan
  • “Complexity goes against robustness.” – Tony Mattke
  • “You can take a unicorn to water, but you can’t make it drink.” – Omar Sultan
  • “When it comes to certifications, it’s time we stop drawing a pyramid, and start drawing a tree.” – Brandon Carroll
  • “CCIE is not really that difficult. All you have to do is not fail the test.” - Marko Milivojevic

Voices (in order of appearance)

There’s a few of you I missed because we didn’t get an intro from you when recording. You know who you are, so if you want to be listed, please let me know!

About Ethan Banks

Ethan Banks, CCIE #20655, is a hands-on networking practitioner who has designed, built and maintained networks for higher education, state government, financial institutions, and technology corporations. Ethan is a host of the Packet Pushers Podcast, which has seen over one million unique downloads, and today reaches a global audience of over ten thousand listeners. Also a writer, Ethan covers network engineering and the networking industry for a variety of IT publications. He is also the editor for the independent community of bloggers at PacketPushers.net. Follow @ecbanks.

  • http://twitter.com/networkstatic Brent Salisbury

    Talk about a list of sharp folks! Now thats a blogroll. Great show.
    P.s those are a beautiful pair of Unicorns. Tempted to forsake engineering for Unicorn artistry.