Why CCDE?

“Why should I take the CCDE?”

This is one of the two questions I’m invariably asked at Cisco Live, so —why, indeed? Let me count the reasons…

Because it’s not a Cisco specific certification. There are no IOS commands, there’s very little Cisco proprietary technology, and there are no hardware specifics at all. While the CCIE is, theoretically, not a Cisco specific certification, the reality is testing build and troubleshoot skills always requires some sort of equipment to operate on, so the context of deploy/troubleshoot is always going to be a specific set of command lines. Design, on the other hand, is about technology choices and analysis —and while these can be pushed into vendor specific molds, the intent of the CCDE Team has been, from the beginning, to craft a test that doesn’t assume specific Cisco products or product lines.

Because it stretch your technology skill set. The goal of the CCDE Team, from the beginning, has been to cast the technology net as widely as possible. Every widely used and deployed technology is fair game on this test, from RFCs to those pieces of common knowledge you just pick up over the years. To take the CCDE, you have to know all seven layers in the seven layer cake, not just one or two. You have to know the crucial questions to ask about physical links, transport technologies, control planes, and applications —what about each of these things will impact the way I design a network, and why?

Because it will stretch your thinking skills. The practical test is specifically designed to ask “why,” rather than just “what.” This isn’t a performance test in the sense that if you can design the network, you get the certification. You have to be able to explain why in terms of business and technical requirements. Why did you choose that specific technology to solve this problem? Why did you choose to deploy it that way? Does your understanding stretch beyond the latest line card, does your understanding stretch into the realm of theory and application?

Because the skills you’ll learn when studying for this certification are timeless. That’s one of the reasons the CCDE doesn’t include Cisco specific technologies or equipment —designers should be able to work with any underlying hardware and overlaying applications. Designers should know what questions need to be asked, and answered, about any conceivable technology, not just the ones that exist right now. The CCDE includes equipment and applications that don’t exist specifically to test the designers ability to work with the unforeseeable and the new, the unexpected and the unknown.

Because networks aren’t getting any simpler, and the competition isn’t getting any easier. Design skills are going to be what sets you apart as a network engineer in five years. As networks become a bigger focus of business, the intersection between business and networks need to become a bigger focus of network engineers.

And, finally, because you know you want the challenge.

Before you ask, yes, I’ll be talking about how to study for the CCDE in future posts.

About Russ White

Russ White is a Network Architect who's currently looking for a new challenge. He's scribbled a basket of books, penned a plethora of patents, written a raft of RFCs, taught a trencher of classes, and done a lot of other stuff you either already know about, or don't really care about. If you want letters, well... BSIT/MSIT (Capella University), CCIE #2635, CCDE 2007:001, CCAr. So there.

  • Prakash.

    Great Russ.. I be waitng for your future post on how acheive to CCDE

  • Robin M.

    All excellent points. I’ve been seriously considering using the CCDE as a path toward recertifying my CCIE R&S when the time comes. I look forward to your future posts on the subject. Hopefully there will be something on where to start. :-)

  • Fernando Montenegro

    Just out of curiosity – did the CCDE change to remove CCIE as a requirement? I seem to recall that it was a progression from CCIE when it first came out…

    • riw777

      There was talk of making the CCDE require the CCIE as a beginning point, primarily so we wouldn’t have to do technical screening of candidates. But.. we decided that the networking industry is really and truly seeing a split between network operations and design, and the certifications should reflect this split, so the two should be at the same level, rather than one stacked on top of the other.

      You’re greatly advantaged to have the CCIE from a technical perspective when you step into the CCDE world. OTOH, you might be greatly disadvantaged by the habit of going as deep as possible, and the immediate translation of small bits of design into configuration in your head as you “go along.” I’ll talk about some of this stuff in more depth in future posts, because I think they’ll need the longer explanation a post can give.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudtoad Derick Winkworth

    You’ve talked me into this. AAAGGHHHH…

    • riw777

      Time to study! :-) I’ll look for you at Live next year with your light blue CCDE ribbon on!

      • http://twitter.com/petrlapu Petr Lapukhov

        Well good or bad you already talked me into taking CCDE ;) It’s time to recertify it next month. Fun times, I’ll never forget that trip to Chicago, when I almost missed the lab exam because they were filming Transformers ;)

    • OmarSultan

      Sigh..me too….

    • http://twitter.com/nkrypted Brandon Mangold

      Ditto, guess I’m just gonna get the silly Data Center specialist certifications to have something to show for my CCIE DC study and just switch to CCDE … although I am still thinking about doing CCIE DC before since I am building a greenfield Data Center and I have the better part of a year to lab on it while we test Fabric Path before going production.

  • http://twitter.com/networkstatic Brent Salisbury

    Thanks Russ, great read! Almost enough to motivate :) The IE has proven investment protection in Cisco letters. How many DE’s are there these days fellas? I am guessing those numbers aren’t publicly posted since they took down the IE numbers a while back. Wonder what the status of IE numbers are anymore, I remember at one point they shrank a bit with retirees.

  • returnofthemus

    Almost tempted, have looked at the blueprint serveral times since the recent update, have even compared old with new, yet EIGRP still remains a feature, which is why I’ve opted for Open CA instead, although it would be kind of nice to join the other 67 worldwide, I’m still not convinced!

  • Mazin

    Great Post. Cannot wait for the next post about Studying for CCDE

  • Derrick Low

    great post!! I’m seriously considering taking CCDE after reading your post